SIXTEEN DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CONSERVATIVE EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY AND WILSONIAN CHRISTIANITY

By Dr. Nick Gier

Professor Emeritus of Philosophy, University of Idaho

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9. Most CEC ministers would support the international genocide treaty, but not Wilson . “Do you support the international conventions against genocide? Yes or No? THIS ISN'T A PRO-LIFE TRICK QUESTION, IS IT? IT IS? THEN NO” (http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2003-December/005891.html). Notice Wilson ’s flip style in this exchange: This is typical of the way he debates.  As I liked to say: those who live by the flip will die by the flip.

DW: He draws this conclusion from the fact that in a previous exchange, when he asked if I supported international conventions against genocide -- "Yes or no?" -- I replied with a question of my own. "This isn't a pro-life trick question, is it? It is? Then no." Gier does not like my "flip" style. And I don't like it when pro-abortionists like Gier posture as though they were against genocide.

NG:  When I asked him those 12 questions back in December, 2003, I expected serious answers. But Wilson cannot restrain himself, and I told him then that I would take him at his word, even his famous Flip Wilson word.  But wait, Wilson has answered seriously: God commanded genocide so it must be right (not wrong).

10.  All but a few CEC pastors would defer to CEC scholars in their congregations, but not Wilson. When Tracie McKenzie, a University of Washington civil war expert and a member of the Seattle Christ Church , dared to object to the errors in the slavery booklet, Wilson rejected his advice to withdraw the booklet.

DW: Gier objects to the fact that I differed on a question of history with a history professor within my own denomination. And I did do this, I acknowledge it. But lest there be no accountability at all, I submitted the manuscript of my forthcoming book on this vexed historical question to one of the top historians in the country, and he gave the book the mother of all blurbs. I hope Gier will approve of this as a substitute.

NG:  One of my prized piece of correspondence is from F. F. Bruce, a CEC Bible scholar, who admitted that a prominent British historian destroyed his credibility by supporting the historicity of Luke census.  (Yet another top CEC who has the intellectual integrity to reject "detailed inerrancy.") In a similar way, I believe that Prof. Genovesse will live to regret writing a blurb for Wilson 's re-write of the slavery booklet. (Perhaps he thought that his professional colleagues will not be reading titles from Wilson 's home grown press.) The Southern Poverty Law Center has noted the good professor's growing affiliation with the neo-Confederates.  We should all admire Prof. Tracie McKenzie for standing up to Moscow 's John Calvin and having the courage to call him an intellectual fraud.  Incidentally, the charges of plagiarism in the first edition still stand, and the authors who were copied (20 percent of the booklet) reject outright the thesis that is presented without shame in Wilson 's second edition.  We are confident that all professional historians will follow suit.

11. Very few CECs would support Wilson ’s practice of infant baptism, an act that makes them, according to Wilson, Christians in more than just a nominal way. How much more nominal this state of grace is, is hard to determine in Wilson ’s writings. Personally, I believe Wilson has switched from adult baptism so that he has more control over these children and their parents.

DW: Most CECs do not support infant baptism, and I do. Further, Gier thinks he knows why I support infant baptism. This particular ecclesiastical practice gives me "more control over these children and their parents." Jeepers. I don't know where to start a reasonable response to this line of attack, so I will just move on before Gier accuses me of spiking the communion wine with arsenic and laughing bwaa ha ha ha during the benediction.

NG: Please note that Wilson confirms my thesis that he differs significantly from most other CECs.  Both Luther and Calvin joined Catholics in liquidating those who believed in the reasonable proposition that people should be a consenting adults before they confirm themselves as Christians.  If it had not been for religious liberals in America , Baptists and many other evangelicals who follow them would not exist today. Finally, now that I know more about how Wilson operates than I previously and naively assumed, I stand